Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Written by lowongan kerja on 9:41 PM
Bener Pak Byron, setuju. Memang tidak harus expert. Tetapi kalau blepotan spt komentar2 sebelumnya, susah juga ya jual diri meyakinkan corporate recruiter utk Int'l Chain. Itu sebabnya saya mengatakan English adalah prasyarat yg paling basic, tanpa mengabaikan syarat2 lainnya.
Btw, orang Amerika atau orang Bristish sepanjang pengetahuan saya ga perlu dan blm ada ikut TOEFL=Test of English as Foreign Language. Krn English adalah bahasa ibunya. :) peace
Salam,
W.Nawa
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From: Byron Karwanto <b112on@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:14:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Buat jadi GM, memang harus bisa komunikasi dalam bahasa inggris dengan fasih... tapi juga gak harus expert... Orang USA atau pun British, kalau mereka ikut test TOEFL, TOEIC, dsb... hasilnya terkadang sama saja... Yang mendapatkan nilai sempurna masih bisa di hitung...
Lihat aja Raport anak-anak kita atau Raport kita jaman dulu... Nilai Bahasa Inggris lebih bagus dari nilai Bahasa Indonesia.... Hehehehehee....
Regards | BM
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Sent: Tue, April 19, 2011 10:32:22 AM
Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Dear Valued Member,
I do understand .. my suggestion are :
1. Do not any disputation anymore
2. Lets prepare our self as local people to be GM in International Chain Hotels
3. Lets show to the International Hospitality that we are Indonesian are capable on those position
Thank you.
Keep Rock & Roll,
Budhiwijaya (Jay)
akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com
budhiwijaya@musician.org
08164716000
From: "agusmulyawan@yahoo.com" <agusmulyawan@yahoo.com>
To: Joseph Karundeng <joseph_edk@yahoo.com>; HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com; HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com; HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com; Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier <hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>; syahrul sauta <syahrulsauta@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Lihat aja Raport anak-anak kita atau Raport kita jaman dulu... Nilai Bahasa Inggris lebih bagus dari nilai Bahasa Indonesia.... Hehehehehee....
Regards | BM
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Sent: Tue, April 19, 2011 10:32:22 AM
Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Ha ha ha pak wayan nawa akhirnya berkomentar juga dan komentarnya tepat banget. Saya pake bahasa awak krn nyadar english saya tidak sebagus orang inggris, itupun saya cuma bisa pake sekedar untuk nyari makan he he he. Maju terus kawan.........
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From: "W. Nawa" <w.nawa@ymail.com>
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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 02:55:23 +0000
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ReplyTo: w.nawa@ymail.com
Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
I just see from one view point, without disregarding the other reasons. Our English is not good enough to become a GM of an international chain property. Look at the English of the answers as well as the first question regarding this subject matter. We should not even ask this question!
W.Nawa
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From: "Budhiwijaya \(Jay\)" <akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com>
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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:22:52 -0700 (PDT)
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ReplyTo: "Budhiwijaya \(Jay\)" <akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Dear Valued Member,
I do understand .. my suggestion are :
1. Do not any disputation anymore
2. Lets prepare our self as local people to be GM in International Chain Hotels
3. Lets show to the International Hospitality that we are Indonesian are capable on those position
Thank you.
Keep Rock & Roll,
Budhiwijaya (Jay)
akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com
budhiwijaya@musician.org
08164716000
From: "agusmulyawan@yahoo.com" <agusmulyawan@yahoo.com>
To: Joseph Karundeng <joseph_edk@yahoo.com>; HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com; HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com; HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com; Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier <hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>; syahrul sauta <syahrulsauta@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Very simple,, Mostly some the owner doesn't believe yet with the local people whereas same capabilities and even greater so wait until they are realize, thanks
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From: Joseph Karundeng <joseph_edk@yahoo.com>
Sender: HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
| What is this ? are you need a responder? if so, please find my answers as below; 1. Good casing Even not all the expatriate are good in managing hotel, but their have a more charisma in front of customers. 2. Disciplines Most of the expatriate are like this, some time if they have some thing which against the discipline procedures their have a good reason for that. 3. Trust They got more trust from hotel owner more than locals. 4. Pride Back to point no. 1, it will increase the class of the hotel if people know that the hotel managers are expatriate (some people) 5. Good Presentation Expatriates sometime give a very good presentation to convince the hotel owner to give a prediction of hotel and their resume it selves. 6. Connection Their got introduced by a third party. This is also valid for locals 7. Hijack Sometime when hotel owners visit the hotel which is good based on their expectation, their looking who is in-charge as a General Manager, than the negotiates are begun. This is also valid for locals. 8. Be required Most of the 4 and 5 stars hotels are big group chains, which some of the brands are owned by expatriate and their required to have an expatriate to manage the hotel (at leased for a while) until their sure that local people can do. That's my answered Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates. What is your answer? With hospitality regards, Joseph Karundeng --- On Mon, 4/18/11, syahrul sauta <syahrulsauta@yahoo.com> wrote:
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