| Sukses untuk semua orang Indonesia yang berkarir di luar negeri . . .
Cuma mengingatkan bahwa kalian adalah expatriate di negeri orang, jadi berpikirlah sejenak apa pandangan masyarakat kita terhadap para expatriate di tanah air kita, ambil hikmahnya, pelajarilah budaya orang dan kita ambil bagusnya saja.
rgds,
Joseph Karundeng--- On Tue, 4/19/11, W. Nawa <w.nawa@ymail.com> wrote:
From: W. Nawa <w.nawa@ymail.com>
Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
To: "putu hendra" <hendrawan80117@yahoo.com>, "Byron Karwanto" <b112on@yahoo.com>, "I Gusti Putu Suena" <igp_suena@yahoo.com>, "Wayan Nawa" <w.nawa@baligolfandcountryclub.com>, "Budhiwijaya (Jay)" <akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com>, "agusmulyawan@yahoo.com" <agusmulyawan@yahoo.com>, "Joseph Karundeng" <joseph_edk@yahoo.com>, "HHRMA Bali Mailing List" <HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com>, "HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com" <HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com>, "HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com" <HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com>, "Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier" <hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>, "syahrul sauta" <syahrulsauta@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 1:09 PM
Sayang kalau kita hrs kembali berpikir sempit lokal, sementara saudara2 kita sudah mendunia. Apa kita mau suadara2 kita yg sdh go international kena syndroma lokalisme di tempat mereka berkairir di luar negeri?
W.Nawa
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From: putu hendra <hendrawan80117@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:23:22 +0800 (SGT) To: Byron Karwanto<b112on@yahoo.com>; I Gusti Putu Suena<igp_suena@yahoo.com>; Wayan Nawa<w.nawa@baligolfandcountryclub.com>; Budhiwijaya \(Jay\)<akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com>; agusmulyawan@yahoo.com<agusmulyawan@yahoo.com>; Joseph Karundeng<joseph_edk@yahoo.com>; HHRMA Bali Mailing List<HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com>; HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com<HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com>; HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com<HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com>; Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier<hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>; syahrul sauta<syahrulsauta@yahoo.com>; <w.nawa@ymail.com> Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Bravo...Local people... Sudah saat nya kita sebagai local human untuk maju dan berkembang berkompetisi dengan expatriate. One thing yang harus kita ketahui bahwa, selain kita sudah siap untuk menjadi berkompetisi dengan dengan expatriate yang ada untuk management property dan industri lainnya, kita juga telah siap untuk masuk ke dalam jaringan sales dan marketing connection dunia, dengan terbukti local people telah banyak di hire di luar negeri, seperti Ibu Sri mulyani di Bank Dunia, kita juga telah mendapatkan the Best spa in the world yaitu Spa Bali, para duta sales & marketing official local kita yang melakukan trade show ke setiap event yang ada di luar negeri, dan selalu mendapatkan hasil yang memuaskan... Jarang saya lihat para expatriate yang melakukan trade show, jikalaupun ada, selalu didampingi oleh local sales & manager nya mereka, yang lebih banyak melakukan presentasi. Untuk Informasi tentang Indonesia dan Bali khususnya, bagaimana adat budaya dan prilaku kita di Bali, para expatriate tidak begitu memahami secara spesifikasi nya, sedangkan customer atau client yang datang ke Bali lebih banyak ingin mengetahui Budaya dan adat istiadat kita, selain alam yang kita punya. APA YANG AKAN MEREKA JELASKAN AS GENERAL MANAGER ( EXPATRIATE ) JIKA ADA PERTANYAAN TENTANG ADAT ISTIADAT & BUDAYA DARI CUSTOMER MEREKA..??????? Mohon di renungkan terutama untuk para owner dan coorporate yang masih berorientasi kepada expatriate orientasi dan menyukai product import...... kenapa para owner dan investor tidak meningkatkan dan ikut memberikan kesempatan kepada SDM local untuk berkembang?????? Kita sebagai putra daerah dan Indonesia telah siap untuk bersaing di kancah persaingan management Dunia. Kita tunjukan bahwa Putra Indonesia tidak selalu menjadi penonton dan penggembira, kita pun telah siap tampil untuk menjadi seorang decision maker di chain hotel.... Suksess untuk putra Bali & Indonesia...... Cheers Hendrawan
--- Pada Sen, 18/4/11, W. Nawa <w.nawa@ymail.com> menulis: Dari: W. Nawa <w.nawa@ymail.com> Judul: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates?????? Kepada: "Byron Karwanto" <b112on@yahoo.com>, "I Gusti Putu Suena" <igp_suena@yahoo.com>, "Wayan Nawa" <w.nawa@baligolfandcountryclub.com>, "Budhiwijaya (Jay)" <akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com>, "agusmulyawan@yahoo.com" <agusmulyawan@yahoo.com>, "Joseph Karundeng" <joseph_edk@yahoo.com>, "HHRMA Bali Mailing List" <HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com>, "HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com" <HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com>, "HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com" <HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com>, "Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier" <hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>, "syahrul sauta" <syahrulsauta@yahoo.com> Tanggal: Senin, 18 April, 2011, 10:41 PM Bener Pak Byron, setuju. Memang tidak harus expert. Tetapi kalau blepotan spt komentar2 sebelumnya, susah juga ya jual diri meyakinkan corporate recruiter utk Int'l Chain. Itu sebabnya saya mengatakan English adalah prasyarat yg paling basic, tanpa mengabaikan syarat2 lainnya. Btw, orang Amerika atau orang Bristish sepanjang pengetahuan saya ga perlu dan blm ada ikut TOEFL=Test of English as Foreign Language. Krn English adalah bahasa ibunya. :) peace Salam,
W.Nawa
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From: Byron Karwanto <b112on@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:14:26 -0700 (PDT) To: <igp_suena@yahoo.com>; <w.nawa@ymail.com>; Budhiwijaya \(Jay\)<akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com>; agusmulyawan@yahoo.com<agusmulyawan@yahoo.com>; Joseph Karundeng<joseph_edk@yahoo.com>; HHRMA Bali Mailing List<HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com>; HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com<HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com>; HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com<HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com>; Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier<hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>; syahrul sauta<syahrulsauta@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Buat jadi GM, memang harus bisa komunikasi dalam bahasa inggris dengan fasih... tapi juga gak harus expert... Orang USA atau pun British, kalau mereka ikut test TOEFL, TOEIC, dsb... hasilnya terkadang sama saja... Yang mendapatkan nilai sempurna masih bisa di hitung... Lihat aja Raport anak-anak kita atau Raport kita jaman dulu... Nilai Bahasa Inggris lebih bagus dari nilai Bahasa Indonesia.... Hehehehehee.... Regards | BM
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Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Ha ha ha pak wayan nawa akhirnya berkomentar juga dan komentarnya tepat banget. Saya pake bahasa awak krn nyadar english saya tidak sebagus orang inggris, itupun saya cuma bisa pake sekedar untuk nyari makan he he he. Maju terus kawan......... Sent from my BlackBerryÃÆ'‚®
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From: "W. Nawa" <w.nawa@ymail.com> Sender: HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 02:55:23 +0000 To: Budhiwijaya \(Jay\)<akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com>; agusmulyawan@yahoo.com<agusmulyawan@yahoo.com>; Joseph Karundeng<joseph_edk@yahoo.com>; HHRMA Bali Mailing List<HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com>; HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com<HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com>; HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com<HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com>; Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier<hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>; syahrul sauta<syahrulsauta@yahoo.com> ReplyTo: w.nawa@ymail.com Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
I just see from one view point, without disregarding the other reasons. Our English is not good enough to become a GM of an international chain property. Look at the English of the answers as well as the first question regarding this subject matter. We should not even ask this question!
W.Nawa
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From: "Budhiwijaya \(Jay\)" <akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com> Sender: HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:22:52 -0700 (PDT) To: agusmulyawan@yahoo.com<agusmulyawan@yahoo.com>; Joseph Karundeng<joseph_edk@yahoo.com>; HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com<HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com>; HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com<HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com>; HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com<HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com>; Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier<hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>; syahrul sauta<syahrulsauta@yahoo.com> ReplyTo: "Budhiwijaya \(Jay\)" <akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Dear Valued Member,
I do understand .. my suggestion are :
1. Do not any disputation anymore
2. Lets prepare our self as local people to be GM in International Chain Hotels
3. Lets show to the International Hospitality that we are Indonesian are capable on those position
Thank you.
Keep Rock & Roll,
Budhiwijaya (Jay)
akoe_budhi20@yahoo.com
budhiwijaya@musician.org
08164716000
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To: Joseph Karundeng <joseph_edk@yahoo.com>; HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com; HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com; HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com; Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier <hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>; syahrul sauta <syahrulsauta@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
Very simple,, Mostly some the owner doesn't believe yet with the local people whereas same capabilities and even greater so wait until they are realize, thanks Sent from my BlackBerryÃÆ'ƒâ€šÃÆ'‚®
From: Joseph Karundeng <joseph_edk@yahoo.com> Sender: HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:09:11 -0700 (PDT) To: <HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com>; <HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com>; <HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com>; Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier<hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>; syahrul sauta<syahrulsauta@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
| What is this ? are you need a responder? if so, please find my answers as below;
1. Good casing Even not all the expatriate are good in managing hotel, but their have a more charisma in front of customers.
2. Disciplines Most of the expatriate are like this, some time if they have some thing which against the discipline procedures their have a good reason for that.
3. Trust They got more trust from hotel owner more than locals.
4. Pride Back to point no. 1, it will increase the class of the hotel if people know that the hotel managers are expatriate (some people)
5. Good Presentation Expatriates sometime give a very good presentation to convince the hotel owner to give a prediction of hotel and their resume it selves.
6. Connection Their got introduced by a third party. This is also valid for locals
7. Hijack Sometime when hotel owners visit the hotel which is good based on their expectation, their looking who is in-charge as a General Manager, than the negotiates are begun. This is also valid for locals.
8. Be required Most of the 4 and 5 stars hotels are big group chains, which some of the brands are owned by expatriate and their required to have an expatriate to manage the hotel (at leased for a while) until their sure that local people can do.
That's my answered Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates.
What is your answer?
With hospitality regards,
Joseph Karundeng
--- On Mon, 4/18/11, syahrul sauta <syahrulsauta@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: syahrul sauta <syahrulsauta@yahoo.com>
Subject: {HHRMA~Bali} Why Hotel's GM in Indonesia still Expatriates??????
To: HHRMA-Bali@yahoogroups.com, HHRMA-Bali2@yahoogroups.com, HHRMA-Bandung@yahoogroups.com, "Hoteljobsinfo Hotelier" <hoteljobsinfo@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 1:09 AM
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Dear All Indonesian Hoteliers! Why most of Hotel's GM in Indonesia especially for four and five statrs hotels are still EXPAT?? Best Regards Syahrul SAUTA,SE.,MM.,MSc Yahoo.Mess: syahrulsauta Mobile: +971561249765 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +971561249765 end_of_the_skype_highlighting PERSONAL WEB LINK: |
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